Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Snookie Punch: Round 3

Well Brad Ferro lost his teaching job. Not sure how NY works but in NJ if you get convicted of a felony, you lose your license. Maybe its the same as NJ and he just didnt have tenure and they did not rehire him. Who knows. I don't think 1 punch is a felony, but it was a girl. I think you plea those things down to a lesser charge. Have I been watching too much Law & Order? Maybe its not as easy as it seems. I dont defend hitting women, but they can get obnixous and in your face because they know that 99.99% of the time the guy will not hit them. Well Snickers just messed with that 0.01%. Maybe it will scare a few women off from acting like that in the future. I' just saying I understand where Brad is coming from.

I love the idea of the entire episode devoted to each of them telling their side of the story. Even the bartenders, co-workers and anyone else who witnessed it, throw in the production staff as well. It would be riviting. I dont think 1 hour would do it justice, we are gonna need 2. As each person is telling their story they flash to slow motion clips that have like a grey filter, it would be so dramatic, I love it. I vote Pauly D's would be the best. He'd be grinning the entire time. And the quotes would be off the charts.

I am really upset, I was looking forward to rounding out my X-mas with a "fresh" episode. Bah-humbug

Sean's performance was in Jenks in Point Pleasant. That night was foggy but here is what I remember. I got lost in the club for about 30 minutes, yes I was this drunk. I also didnt remember seeing a band, but apparently there was one. We had to carry Sean to the car and prop him against a parking meter so he could take a piss. In the car you gave him your dad's raincoat and told him if he was gonna puke, do it in the jacket. Then there was all the Shenanigans at house.

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Snookie Punch reply

I agree with a lot of what you got here. In fact I think you hit some things dead on. But when your wrong, I’ll tell you your wrong; and in one area you are officially wrong. It is not now, nor will it ever be referred to as “the punch.”

I think I caught note of it and mentioned that the phrase “snookie punch” was getting buzz as far back as the season opener. To further add to my argument I pulled up google search trends and “snookie punch” was number 5 overall the week of the episode. I agree that this will be the most talked about punch until Pacquiao dislocates Mayweathers’s shoulder in March. (Who am I kidding, even the Pac-man can not top a troll getting knocked out by a guido.)

Regardless, this punch has a first name and it should henceforth be referred to as- Snookie Punch.

With that discussion behind us, I will note that you did a great job of breaking down the scene which lead to Snookie Punch. This was definitely an off night and that typically can lead to a crowd of drunks and locals. It reminds me of going to one of those late in the season Giants games from the bad 2003-2004 seasons. It was cold and crappy. Everyone in the stadium was drinking too much and the only people who were there at the end of the game were Giant die hards and opposing fans. Fights kick-off real easy in situations like that. I picture a miserable rainy Tuesday night in a depressing boardwalk bar having a similar poweder keg like issue.

Another tip of the cap goes to you for bring up Sean’s rockstar performance down at the Surf Club. Yes, I stand corrected that with enough alcohol it is entirely feasible that a somewhat normal individual might steal drinks that are purchased by another person.

It did look like the guys friends will get a talking too by Ronnie and some of the fellas but my guess is that those lovely MTV editors will make us forget that there is likely a huge time lag between actual Snookie Punch and post-Snookie Punch confrontation. I have to imagine that the cops intervened, spoke to everyone, and tried to get some understanding of the story. All of that takes time. This is not to say that these guys still won’t be fired up, but I imagine that their rage comes back to normal levels as opposed to what might have occurred if there were no police involvement.

I’m just so curious to hear more from everyone about this. They could literally make a one hour episode where every cast member told the story from their perspective. First of all the drama of each person trying to interject their personal shock and opinion on the story would be high comedy; secondly the differences, gaps, and overlap in their stories would bring this event to life almost Zapruder film-like and put it in the proper historical perspective. (Yes, I am aware that I just compared Snookie Punch to the Kennedy Assassination.)

Until we get recaps and reaction in our next episode (which won’t be until 12/31); we can spend some discussing the fate of the Snookie Puncher. Poor Brad Ferro. He is/was a teacher in Queens and apparently apologized to Snookie. But my guess is that doesn’t get him his job back? Thoughts? Also are you aware that there is a video of him out there doing a little bit of cage fighting? Not good stuff.

Monday, December 21, 2009

The Punch

Ok so onto The Punch, which is what it will be called until there is a more famous punch in the news. Could be tomorrow could take years.

Ok so first....Here is my take on the situation.(not the character). They appear to be in a boardwalk bar that no one else is really in which leads me to believe that it is an off night like a Monday or Tuesday. This is where I would go on an off night. You don;t walk into Bamboo on a Tuesday, who knows, hey may not even be open on a Tuesday. Now if they are out on a Tuesday, my guess is they are just out to have a good time and a couple of drinks with co-workers (nice touch). So one is really in lets get wasted and puke our brains out mode. My other guess is that these other guys are down the shore for the week and are looking to get fucked up. Who knows, maybe its their 1st night down the shore for a long weekend or something. Pauly D also noted that they were all up in their business. They probably saw the cameras and figured they would hang near these guys and be on tv.

Second, What kind of guy does it take to steal someone's shots? Remember Sean on Memorial Day weekend of 2000? That guy. They also probably figured that since their were cameras around, these guys would not do anything serious to them. But stlll ballsy when you are outnumbered. And props to the co-worker who stood up to them to begin with.

Finally, the cops were on that in .04 seconds, which leads me to believe the following. MTV pays for a cop to shadow the cast. They stay real out of the way, maybe sometimes they are even in street clothes. It makes sense on MTV's part. WHo knows, maybe they have them on all the Real Worlds, and we just dont know it. They edit enough shit out that they could be there and we would never know it....kinda like Vinny on the this cast. They probably figured these guys would get into some beef at the jersey shore. It happens without the cameras. The guy who punched Snookie, I dont think he even got punched in retalliation by anyone. But it looks like his friends will get a scare in the next episode. He should have gotten pummeled.

Final pre-punch note

I honestly could go on forever about this show and still feel like I have more to say. Anyhow I promise this is my last non-punch related posting.

I can’t see how some of these characters don’t find their way into a spin-off. Not sure which direction they will take; but I’m pretty sure some of these folks will live on in pop culture for longer than this current MTV run. By the way I read that both Paulie D. and Jwoww said they would pose nude. One step closer to the sextape I predicted in one of our first posts.

I can’t believe I didn’t think of the parallel between Ronnie and the CJ incident. It really is very similar. On the same topic how much better is Jersey Shore than real world Cancun.

Anyhow yes the collateral damage to all of these women lured back to the house for some hot tubbing is something to take note of. That girl will be heckled and called “the grenade” for the months. It reminds me of RealWorld Brooklyn when the cast went out to a bar and the transgender he/she hooked up with some unsuspecting guy. Imagine being that guy’s friend. You get back to college after summer break and this jack ass is bragging up and down the line about how he hooked up with someone from the Real World cast and how he is gonna be on TV. Then sure enough the season starts and they introduce his hook up as a tranny, he freezes up. He tries to play it down and doesn’t mention which chick he hooked up with. Suddenly the episode hits the air and for the rest of his college career he is known as the guy who made out with the she-male on TV. Game over. Time to transfer schools and find a whole new group of friends.

I have to think that for a lot of these girls they are experiencing something similar. Prior to the first episode they bragged about how cool they were for hooking up with one of the Jersey Shore cast, yet as the show has picked up steam they are really wishing that they:
A.) didn’t hook up with these guys and
B.) didn’t hook up with these guys on camera, and
C.) didn’t tell anyone about the show

Just great stuff.

Anyhow final note before we switch to the punch. How about Snookie’s dancing? It really has to be noted how funny it is to watch an orange oompa lumpa do cartwheels in a thong in the middle of a club. Also, there has to be plenty of outtake of her falling on her head. I need those outtakes.

Alright Robbie. Kick us off on the Snookie Punch discussion. A few avenues of discussion for you to react to:

Prior to the punch, the offending group of guys were identified as troublemakers. My question is this- how much of a tornado do you have to be such that this collection of meatheads recognizes you as a problem.

On that same note. What kind of guts does it take to simply steal another person's shots at a bar. That is truly ballsy.

Final question. If the bouncers/cops weren’t right on top of the incident, how badly beaten do you think this guy would have gotten. I’m thinking Brock Lesner Frank Mir type of beating right. Or does this go as far as Ed Norton in fight club, “I wanted to destroy something beautiful.”

More before the punch

I think we could have serious spin off potential. the Pauly D Situation show. Cameras just follow them trying to meet/hook up with girls. I would watch it and you know you would too.

The whole Ronnie/towel situation reminded me of CJ on the RW Cancun when the "piglet" incident happened. Why not throw on some boxers or a pair of shorts. Which leads me to this question....Who lays on their bed with just a towel on? The only think missing from that scene was Ronnie yelling something to the effect of" I fuckin love you sooooooooo much"

Dance battling, that what she calls it. More like dry humping. come on. Also how about Pauly D eaves dropping on Jwoww's phone coversation, then pretending to be asleep......more comedy.

What we havent discussed about all these girls coming back to the house is the fact that a girl just watched this episode and now everyone will call her "The Grenade." How many people watched this episode 5 million? Not sure, but you know people who knew her were excited.

Sunday, December 20, 2009

Episode three- Pre Snookie punch discussion

Just a great episode and a great set of quotes.

I really could watch Paulie D and the Situation hit on girls all day long. Two more great quotes to add to the pile…

“Chill out freckles McGee.” – The Situation when he got c*&k blocked by the chick who insisted on going home.

“Dancin to house music and battling on the floor”- JWoww when she was recapping the night to her boyfriend.

Alright before we hop into the punch, or really the absence of the punch I want to address a few other highlights…

First a big question-
Why was Ronnie naked for the beginning fight with Sammie?
Lets recap: Sammie comes home and Ronnie is lying on his bed with Jwoww in the next bed and Ronnie is naked except for a towel. Ronnie then follows Sammie all over the house having a half argument, half heart-to-heart, half emotional breakdown all the while clutching a towel. It just cracked me up that he never stopped to throw on some boxers…
It reminded me of the scene from Forgetting Sara Marshall where the guy is naked while getting dumped.

Second idea-
By the end of the show I’m guessing that Paulie and The situation will have hooked up/ hot tubbed with 40+ girls on camera. I want to know where these women are?

Mtv loves a reunion show, I think it would be phenomenally interesting if they could round up every single one of these women for a show. Who wouldn’t watch this? The combination of reactions would be utterly compelling. I’m sure some of the girls would be proud at their 5 minutes of fame, some would be clueless, some would be embarrassed, some would be repulsed, and some would be enraged at the way the guys talked about them to the camera. Putting all of these people in one room would be awesome.

Anyhow any other thoughts before we get into dissecting the Snookie punch?

The Pauly and Stiuation Show

I have decided to change it up this week and start off with quotes from this past episode. Maybe later we'll delve into some deeper thoughts.

Stiuation- "I'm hooking up with my girl, paulies hooking up with his girl...we're gonna have sex so you know its a situation"

Pauly- "I couldnt have sex with my gir, she had her period. no big deal"

"Yeah we smushed"-Ronnie referrinf to sex with sammy sweatheart

"Just stay fresh"- Pauly D referring to tanning and haircuts

"Cuz i;m at the gym for an hour and a half, just workin on my fitness"-the situation

"Mike(the situation) would bang a gatorade bottle if it had a pulse"-Ronnie

"We're beating up the beat (reffering to the fist pump)"--forgot who said it, Pauly D i think

"When I go out i have a game plan, I dont want to wast me time and take home a girl who just wants to hang out. I want to get to the business. So you light it up and then you move on. and at the end of the night you see what you end up with"- Pauly D

"They were nice but at the same time, i want to fool around"--Pauly D

"My girl was f-ing busted, i was just trying to keep her entertained"- Pauly D